Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05774; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 07:25:26 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Tue, 26 Mar 1996 07:24:16 -0500 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (searn.sunet.se [192.36.125.4]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id HAA05681; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 07:24:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199603261224.HAA05681@CS.UTK.EDU> Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE by SEARN.SUNET.SE (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 1199; Tue, 26 Mar 96 13:24:54 +0100 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin ERIC@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2b/1.8b) with RFC822 id 7945; Tue, 26 Mar 1996 13:24:54 +0100 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 13:12:22 +0100 From: Eric Thomas Subject: Re: timezones & Date To: drums@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:42:02 -0500 from "Perry E. Metzger" On Mon, 25 Mar 1996 22:42:02 -0500 "Perry E. Metzger" said: >What was said was simply this: if you can expect to have to configure >your copy of Eudora with your name, the nearest POP and SMTP server, >etc., I think it isn't much of an imposition to also ask for the time >zone for the configuration file. Its at most a few bytes of information >that any idiot knows I'm sorry Perry, but you're very wrong here. Maybe in the US every idiot knows whether he's on Eastern or Pacific time. But, again, most countries actually fit on one time zone. Actually, most of Europe fits in one time zone, so most people over here think in terms of European time vs US time vs the time the Brits use because they can never do like the rest of us ;-) When I configured the first system I was in charge of and it asked for the 3-letter abbreviation for my time zone and the GMT offset, call me an idiot if you will but I had NO CENSORED IDEA. As far as I knew, Greenwich was in the UK, and we were not on the same time as the UK, so I figured it would probably be +1 (it was +2 actually at that time of the year). I used the default, and then I asked my Dad, who works for an airline. Because of his job he knew the GMT offset (just as I now do, because my job now requires it). Nobody knew what, if any, was the proper three-letter abbreviation. Admittedly this was 15 years ago, but there are still a lot of non-technical people who positively wouldn't know what their GMT offset is. And, above all, they aren't going to remember to go into the config and change it twice a year, so it will be wrong half of the time. Bottom line, if the *system* doesn't provide and *maintain* a GMT offset for you, in most cases you don't know the local time zone. Eric