Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04702; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 12:26:59 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 9 Apr 1997 12:26:46 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04664; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 12:26:45 -0400 Received: from mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU (mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU [128.250.1.22]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id MAA04651; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 12:26:36 -0400 Received: from ietfpool72.fedex.net by mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU with SMTP (5.83--+1.3.1+0.51) id AA05760; Thu, 10 Apr 1997 02:26:12 +1000 (from kre@cs.mu.oz.au) Received: from aussie.cs.mu.OZ.AU (kre@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aussie.cs.mu.OZ.AU (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA00512; Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:02:56 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 1.6.5 12/8/95 To: kai@khms.westfalen.de (Kai Henningsen) Cc: drums@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Replying to a mailing list In-Reply-To: Your message of "08 Apr 1997 22:43:00 +0200." <6UTmihWUcsB@khms.westfalen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 09 Apr 1997 10:02:55 -0500 Message-Id: <509.860598175@aussie.cs.mu.OZ.AU> From: Robert Elz | For another perspective - one mailing list I'm on regularly got mail from | someone saying "Please don't CC me when replying to the list" - and then | some time later, someone else had his mails say "Please always CC me when | replying to the list". All this is because almost no-one does the right thing with Reply-To. To get rid of this noise in mail items, all we need to do is get rational Reply-To support into the clients (and avoid lists and stuff messing with the header). In the first case the author sticks in Reply-To: list@server in the second the author says Reply-To: list@server, me@elsewhere and then any client should, by default, send replies exactly where the author wanted. Mailing lists should absolutely not then go out of their way to depeat this. And no Jacob - there's no requirement whatever that the person replying obey that request, it is just a request from the author, which should be assisted by the recipients UA. If the person sending the reply decides that they want to reply only to the list, or only to the author, or always to both, then they do that, nothing we can do can stop them, even if we wanted, which we don't. | If anything, I think we should say that for composing a reply, people | should have a choice about which header fields to search for addresses That's fine too, but that is just a UA design issue. | Of course, it might be a nice feature to configure different defaults for | specific situations, but I think that is far outside the scope of drums. It isn't out of scope to define what Reply-To is, and how it should be used. It is to get into UA design. I think the text in the msg-fmt doc is OK now, it could possibly do with a little more wording to help UA authors do the sane thing, but technically as it is now is fine. kre