Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA18270; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 06:27:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 26 Aug 1997 06:27:11 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA18224; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 06:27:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ALPHA1.RESTON.MCI.NET (alpha1.Reston.mci.net [204.70.128.80]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id GAA18199; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 06:27:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tp7.Jck.com ([206.99.215.42]) by ALPHA1.RESTON.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.1-8 #8388) with SMTP id <01IMVWCYSD940010ZP@ALPHA1.RESTON.MCI.NET> for drums@cs.utk.edu; Tue, 26 Aug 1997 06:26:34 EDT Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 06:26:31 -0400 (EDT) From: John C Klensin Subject: Re: X-Sender, X-Archive In-reply-to: <21042.872564369@foxharp.boston.ma.us> To: pgf@foxharp.boston.ma.us Cc: drums@cs.utk.edu Reply-to: John C Klensin Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Simeon for Win32 Version 4.1.2 Build (32) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Priority: NORMAL X-Authentication: none On Mon, 25 Aug 1997 22:59:29 -0400 Paul Fox wrote: > anyone with an email account has the resources to forge a piece of email. > there are more hurdles for postal mail: correct postmark and handwriting > at a minimum. people have learned to trust postal mail because it _is_ >... You forgot one: in most countries, altering origins of postal mail with the intent of defrauding or misleading is a criminal offense. When forging email is merely juvenile behavior and bad taste, and forging postal mail can land someone in jail, people tend to take the latter as more authentic. That suggests a path I don't want to go down, but the distinction may be useful. > (on the other hand the recent advent of junk postal mail with personalized > scrawls in the margins ("Paul -- Thought you'd be interested in this! -- RC") > have confused and angered many people, because they fall outside the bounds > of traditional postal mail experience. but we got used to the personalized > form letter, and we'll get used to the apparently handwritten version as well.) Indeed. Good point. May even help explain the email problem to the naive. But, per the above, note that these advertisers go to considerable lengths to avoid pretending to be some specific, existing, entity which they aren't. Sending out an advertising letter with a return address of "President of the United States, Washington, DC" and containing a decent imitation of the canonical stationery would have high odds of landing one in *deep* trouble. john