Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09405; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 11:32:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Wed, 27 Aug 1997 11:32:02 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09375; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 11:32:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from muenster.westfalen.de (root@muenster.westfalen.de [195.52.199.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id LAA09353; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 11:31:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from khms.westfalen.de by muenster.westfalen.de via rsmtp with bsmtp id for ; Wed, 27 Aug 1997 17:31:09 +0200 (CEST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built 1996-Nov-13) Received: by khms.westfalen.de (CrossPoint v3.11 R/C435); 27 Aug 1997 17:26:19 +0200 Date: 27 Aug 1997 17:04:00 +0200 From: kai@khms.westfalen.de (Kai Henningsen) To: drums@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <6cevJOIEcsB@khms.westfalen.de> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: New IETF draft on "Messages between Email and Netnews" X-Mailer: CrossPoint v3.11 R/C435 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Organisation? Me?! Are you kidding? References: X-No-Junk-Mail: I do not want to get *any* junk mail. Comment: Unsolicited commercial mail will incur an US$100 handling fee per received mail. Chris.Newman@innosoft.com (Chris Newman) wrote on 26.08.97 in : > On Wed, 20 Aug 1997, Jacob Palme wrote: > > We seem to agree that "Reply-To" should be redefined to mean > > "Personal-Reply-To" and that a new e-mail header "Group-Reply-To" > > should be added. I would prefer that all this is done in the 822bis > > document, but if drums does not accept this, perhaps the 822bis > > document could restrict the meaning of "Reply-To" and a separate > > standard could define "Group-Reply-To"? > > Speaking as WG chair: > > DRUMS is forbidden from adding new functionality. Without this > restriction, we'd never get done. > > I don't think there is any concensus on whether Reply-To should mean > "personal-reply-to", "group-reply-to" or what 822bis says. In the > absense of concensus to change, we stick with the status quo (which is > what 822bis says). Our only other option is to drop Reply-To from 822bis > completely, and I doubt we'd get concensus on that. If someone thinks my > impression of group concensus is wrong, please speak up. > > As WG chair, I have to rule suggestions to add Group-Reply-To or similar > things out of order on the grounds it is new functionality. I don't think > it's a bad suggestion and it might even help fix some problems with > Reply-To. But I suspect the ensuing debate is a rathole and would > significantly delay the completion of DRUMS. Given that DRUMS is already > long overdue, Group-Reply-To will have to be deferred to future work. Would it be possible to have some language indicating that people are working on refinements to Reply-To:, so 822bis users at least are not completely surprised if they are later pointed to another RFC that contains these refinements? It would obviously have to be outside the normative parts of 822bis. Maybe some sort of "future directions" paragraph? Other stuff could go there as well, that can't go in the main part because of referencing work that's not done. MfG Kai