Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11967; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:34:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:32:47 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11823; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:32:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from muenster.westfalen.de (root@muenster.westfalen.de [195.52.199.2]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id OAA11807; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:32:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from khms.westfalen.de by muenster.westfalen.de via rsmtp with bsmtp id for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 20:31:07 +0200 (CEST) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built 1996-Nov-13) Received: by khms.westfalen.de (CrossPoint v3.11 R/C435); 23 Oct 1997 20:11:20 +0200 Date: 23 Oct 1997 19:46:00 +0200 From: kaih@khms.westfalen.de (Kai Henningsen) To: drums@cs.utk.edu Message-ID: <6gQMcuS1w-B@khms.westfalen.de> In-Reply-To: <19971022181913.15631.qmail@cr.yp.to> Subject: Re: wishful thinking vs. reality X-Mailer: CrossPoint v3.11 R/C435 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Organisation? Me?! Are you kidding? References: <19971022181913.15631.qmail@cr.yp.to> X-No-Junk-Mail: I do not want to get *any* junk mail. Comment: Unsolicited commercial mail will incur an US$100 handling fee per received mail. djb@cr.yp.to (D. J. Bernstein) wrote on 22.10.97 in <19971022181913.15631.qmail@cr.yp.to>: > These features will not disappear as long as Reply-To is munged, no > matter what 822bis says. > > Reply-To will continue to be munged until there is a workable > alternative, no matter what 822bis says. Well, this tells us two things: 1. We need those other features (well, we already knew that). 2. The existence of this features and of reply-to munging is irrelevant to what 822bis should say, because what it says will be irrelevant to the existance of these things. > You aren't solving the problems. You're simply denying that they exist. Above, you just proved that we can't solve them anyway - we can't do new stuff, and old stuff isn't enough. MfG Kai