Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA18085; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:05:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.7); Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:03:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17972; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:03:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from ester.dsv.su.se (ester.dsv.su.se [130.237.161.10]) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id WAA17958; Tue, 25 Nov 1997 22:02:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from [130.237.150.138] (jph1.dsv.su.se [130.237.150.138]) by ester.dsv.su.se (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id EAA12641; Wed, 26 Nov 1997 04:02:42 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: jpalme@dsv.su.se (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19971125202045.21375.qmail@cr.yp.to> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 02:46:52 +0100 To: "D. J. Bernstein" , drums@cs.utk.edu From: Jacob Palme Subject: Re: IETF draft on the "Mail-Followup-To" header At 20.20 +0000 97-11-25, D. J. Bernstein wrote: > You are continuing to provide a rather annoying set of semantics for > nonexistent Mail-Followup-To fields. You are, by your own admission, > trying to browbeat everyone into adding Mail-Followup-To, because you > think that will speed the transition. > > But the transition doesn't need any help. It is _already_ in everyone's > interest to support Mail-Followup-To. > > If an implementor is willing to add Mail-Followup-To to every message, > fine. But he shouldn't be forced into it Where does my proposal text say this? I have scanned through the proposal carefully and find no text making Mail-Followup-To mandatory. It would be more useful if you said what your alternative is, rather than saying that I provide annoying semantics and am trying to browbeat people. The problem is that many people who run mailing list expanders want to add "Reply-To" to messages. And adding this sometimes can cause unwanted results, such as reducing the set of recipients (to only one of two lists to which a message was crossposted, or to only one sublist of a primary list) or having personal replies wrongly sent to the list. I say that a sender who wants to avoid this risk should add a Mail-Followup-To header. The mailing list expander can then reasonably assume that this header provides a way of getting replies to the group, and should not then have to add anything else. What is your alternative solution to this problem? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jacob Palme (Stockholm University and KTH) for more info see URL: http://www.dsv.su.se/~jpalme