Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06053; Sun, 31 Dec 1995 03:32:55 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Sun, 31 Dec 1995 03:31:33 -0500 Received: from panix.com by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id DAA06018; Sun, 31 Dec 1995 03:31:30 -0500 Received: (from hal9001@localhost) by panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id DAA05013; Sun, 31 Dec 1995 03:31:21 -0500 (EST) X-Sender: hal9001@popserver.panix.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Mailer: Mac Eudora Pro 2.1.4b10 Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 03:33:07 -0500 To: Keith Moore From: "Robert A. Rosenberg" Subject: Re: The use of 8-bit Cc: Jacob Palme , ietf-drums , Mail and News integration mailing list , moore@cs.utk.edu At 1:39 12/30/95, Keith Moore wrote: >> Many European alphabets use characters with the 8-th bit set much >> more than in English. Experience shows that it is very common >> that Europeans put such characters in news articles even though >> it is probably not legal. Many existing news software apparently >> produces such 8-bit characters. >> >> It seems to me that it is impossible to stop this practice. >> If it cannot be stopped, perhaps it should be accepted. Thus, >> perhaps the best would be to say that the default character >> set in news is ISO 8859-1 (just as it already is in HTML). > >It would make far more sense to have the default charset set on a per-hierarchy >basis. That way the fj.* groups could have their default charset >(iso-2022-jp?), and the relcom.* groups theirs (koi-8?). It would not be too >difficult (well, not *technically* difficult) to set up a global registry of >charset defaults, perhaps making it accessible through DNS. > >Keith A simpler way would be to fix the News Servers to force MIME and add the charset (or a hierarchy basis) if there is no MIME or Charset indication in the message posted by the user. This changes the problem from assuming a default to insuring that the default is documented. I am suggesting that this be done by the POSTING Servers only not the ones who are just echoing a newsfeed (the latter is a separate issue).