Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA05152; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 01:50:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.10); Wed, 5 Aug 1998 01:50:34 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA05113; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 01:50:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from upm.edu.my (scc.upm.edu.my [202.184.17.1]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA05100; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 01:50:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from inet.upm.edu.my by scc.upm.edu.my (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02933; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 13:50:55 -0800 Received: from admin.upm.edu.my by inet.upm.edu.my (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA19512; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 13:49:56 -0800 Received: from dcrocker by admin.upm.edu.my (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA24094; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 13:49:19 -0800 Message-Id: <4.1.0.37.19980804223455.032ea320@mail.bayarea.net> X-Sender: dcrocker@mail.bayarea.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1.0.37 (Beta) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 22:39:40 -0700 To: "D. J. Bernstein" From: Dave Crocker Subject: Re: RFC 2119 violations and DRUMS mismanagement Cc: drums@cs.utk.edu In-Reply-To: <19980805003615.18188.qmail@cr.yp.to> References: <19980804100531.9094.qmail@cr.yp.to> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:36 AM 8/5/98 +0000, D. J. Bernstein wrote: >Hypocrite. Dan, you persist in indulging in a number of behaviors that are universally unacceptable in the IETF. As such, you negate any benefit you might otherwise achieve as a participant. This has been explained to you repeatedly and by many different people. You choose to be impervious to the consistent feedback. Further, you choose to constantly make personal attacks at one person after another. The icing on the cake is that you are unwilling to learn the details of IETF working processes or to follow those processes. Instead you choose to have public temper tantrums and cast personal aspersions freely, whenever you don't get what you want. I don't happen to have children, so I'm not particularly skilled at dealing with them. However, I know one when I see him. Please go to your room. I believe the next parental phrase is "don't come out until you learn to behave." As for the rest of us, I think we need to return to our regularly scheduled programming, at otherwise keep from engaging in this silly entertainment. d/ _________________________________________________________________________ Dave CROCKER Tel: +1 408 246 8253 BRANDENBURG CONSULTING Tel: +60 19 329 9445 675 Spruce Drive Fax: +1 408 273 6464 P. O. Box 296, UPM Sunnyvale, CA 94086 www.brandenburg.com Serdang, Selangor 43400 United States Malaysia