Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22693; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 09:14:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.10); Wed, 5 Aug 1998 09:13:25 -0400 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22616; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 09:13:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sws5.ctd.ornl.gov (sws5.ctd.ornl.gov [128.219.128.125]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA22600; Wed, 5 Aug 1998 09:13:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 22735 invoked by uid 3995); 5 Aug 1998 13:13:18 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13768.23150.599772.220209@sws5.ctd.ornl.gov> Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 09:13:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave Sill To: drums@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: Call for Concensus on Recent issues In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.59 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, Tenn., USA X-Face: "p~Q]mg{;e*}YR|)&Q/&Q\*~5UWfZX34;5M wrote: >(17) Section 3.5.2, paragraph 2, requirements deemed unreasonable by >two participants, deemed reasonable by others. Current text is >directly from RFC 1123 so is the default without a rough concensus to >the contrary. VRFY support should be optional. Mandating support for features that many admins will disable causes code bloat. This is like congress passing a law that car makers have to offer CD players in all models, even though many buyers won't want one. >(26) Section 4.4, local time preferred to UT in Received. One WG >participant disagrees with language. Some want reason for preference >explained. The ~4th paragraph starts by saying that "comparability of Received fields is important". Recommending local time seems to contradict that. >(28) Section 4.5.4.1, paragraph 3. Retry algorithm MUST be >configurable. Requirement deemed unreasonable by some, useful hint by >others. Text is from RFC 1123, so default if no concensus is to leave >it. I consider the requirement unreasonable. Why outlaw implementations that work fine just because they're not configurable? This is like congress passing a law mandating adjustable lumbar support in car seats. If users need a feature, they'll use a product that supports it. I see no compelling reason to require it in all servers. Also, paragraph 3 says "The parameters to the retry algorithm MUST be configurable." I don't see where these parameters are defined, so the requirement is under defined. If it's so important that certain things are configurable that it warrants a MUST, shouldn't the parameters themselves also be specified? -Dave