Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21402; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 09:29:47 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.3); Mon, 8 Jan 1996 09:29:13 -0500 Received: from mail1.reston.mci.net by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id JAA21300; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 09:29:12 -0500 Received: from klensin (usr1-dialup1.Seattle.mci.net) by MAIL1.RESTON.MCI.NET (PMDF V5.0-5 #8388) id <01HZRH1W33PC00052J@MAIL1.RESTON.MCI.NET>; Mon, 08 Jan 1996 09:29:31 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 09:28:27 -0500 From: John C Klensin Subject: Re: "be liberal in what you accept" considered harmful X-Sender: klensin@mail1.reston.mci.net To: RANDY@MPA15AB.MV.UNISYS.COM Cc: drums@cs.utk.edu Message-id: <2.2.16.19960108142827.41ffbca8@mail1.reston.mci.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT At 21:59 96.01.05 +0000, RANDY@MPA15AB.MV.UNISYS.COM wrote: >O2 5 Jan 1996 18:54:18 -0500, John Gardiner Myers wrote: > >> "Be liberal in what you accept" can actually be a quite harmful >> practice. It's use papers over problems which otherwise would be >> noticed and fixed. >... >This is a good point, but if someone implements a new mail system >today, and rejects messages that do not conform to the standards, it >will be seen as unable to interoperate. Wbat's a software developer >to do? Be very smart about what you are doing. If what comes in is incorrect, and you guess at what it was intended to mean, you will sometimes get it wrong. When that results in mail delivery to the wrong mailbox, you will end up in more trouble than if you had rejected the stuff. I see a transition problem getting back to where we should have been, but basically agree with John -- the history of senders claiming that receivers are broken because they aren't liberal enough to accept the garbage the senders deal out has really been a big contributor the the mess we have today. Speaking of which, Randy, your host or gateway changes every instance of mailbox@dom.ain into mailbox%dom.ain@MVDNS1.MV-oc.Unisys.COM This certainly violates the spirit of the rules and can be argued to violate the letter of them. Can you get it fixed? john