Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21597; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 01:44:42 -0500 (EST) Received: by cs.cs.utk.edu (bulk_mailer v1.11); Mon, 1 Feb 1999 01:43:46 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21540; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 01:43:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from koobera.math.uic.edu (IDENT:qmailr@koobera.math.uic.edu [131.193.178.247]) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id BAA21521; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 01:43:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 16853 invoked by uid 666); 1 Feb 1999 06:43:59 -0000 Date: 1 Feb 1999 06:43:59 -0000 Message-ID: <19990201064359.16851.qmail@cr.yp.to> Mail-Followup-To: drums@cs.utk.edu From: "D. J. Bernstein" To: drums@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: smtpupd-09 prohibits uuencode, cron mail, et al. References: <19990129232819.4889.qmail@cr.yp.to> List-Unsubscribe: John C Klensin writes: > A significant fraction of the EHLO-based extensions really do assume MIME, Not in practice. The only real-world effect of declaring 8BITMIME is to make sendmail treat MIME messages just like non-MIME messages, ignoring the MIME fields. There aren't any other common MIME-related extensions. Anyway, the 8BITMIME spec already explicitly says that all 8-bit messages are MIME messages, never mind current practice. How does it help for you to declare that all structured messages are MIME messages? You're simply giving people another reason to throw away your document. > But I would appreciate recommendations of suggested replacement text, Frankly, I don't believe you. Philip Hazel proposed some text in July 1998. You ignored it. This is hardly an isolated example. The wild world of Internet mail includes a huge amount of behavior that doesn't fit into your religion. Forcing you to document that behavior is like pulling teeth. Exacerbating the situation is your dishonest editorial policy. You should have started from the previous standards and made only the changes approved by the group. Instead you've been abusing your power, making whatever changes you want, shifting a huge time burden onto the people who _don't_ want those changes. ---Dan