Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11333; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 02:02:31 -0500 (EST) Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.12); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 02:01:02 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11125; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 02:01:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.itu.int (marvin@localhost) by CS.UTK.EDU with ESMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id CAA11107; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 02:00:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.itu.int (156.106.192.17 -> mail1.itu.ch) by CS.UTK.EDU (smtpshim v1.0); Wed, 9 Feb 2000 02:01:00 -0500 Received: from dcrocker.~nodomain~ (usr-011.itu.ch [156.106.194.11]) by mail1.itu.int with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id D5S7D47L; Wed, 9 Feb 2000 08:01:52 +0100 Message-Id: <4.3.0.39.0.20000209080044.00c65f00@mail.bayarea.net> X-Sender: dcrocker@mail.bayarea.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.0.39 (Beta) Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 08:00:46 +0100 To: Keith Moore From: Dave Crocker Subject: Re: RFC822's Appendix D, and X- fields Cc: Keith Moore , DRUMS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed List-Unsubscribe: At 03:38 PM 2/8/2000 -0500, Keith Moore wrote: >what you call chilling effects and what I might call strategically >placed bars are sometimes useful. some people think that the IETF 1. Sometimes is not always. X- is always 2. For all of your concern about examples, what are the examples of BENEFITS from the artificial X- barrier? >process imposes a chilling effect because people have to meet >certain requirements to get their work declared as standards. This isn't about meeting standards. Those requirements are well enforced through other mechanisms. This is about ALWAYS requiring starting over, and therefore losing all install-base momentum. Always. In effect you are insisting on a syntactic barrier for enforcing a policy barrier. Overloading functions that way should be permitted only in the face of compelling requirement and a good ability to demonstrate that the requirement needs to be enforced that way. d/ =-=-=-=-= Dave Crocker Brandenburg Consulting Tel: +1.408.246.8253, Fax: +1.408.273.6464 675 Spruce Drive, Sunnyvale, CA 94086 USA Gong Xi Fa Cai / Selamat Tahun Baru Cina