Received: from localhost by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08801; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 21:59:13 -0500 Received: by CS.UTK.EDU (bulk_mailer v1.4); Wed, 6 Mar 1996 21:58:31 -0500 Received: from koobera.math.uic.edu by CS.UTK.EDU with SMTP (cf v2.9s-UTK) id VAA08777; Wed, 6 Mar 1996 21:58:30 -0500 Received: (qmail-queue invoked by uid 666); 7 Mar 1996 03:00:24 GMT Date: 7 Mar 1996 03:00:23 GMT Message-ID: <19960307030023.15889.qmail@koobera.math.uic.edu> From: djb@koobera.math.uic.edu (D. J. Bernstein) To: drums@cs.utk.edu Subject: Re: re PIPELINING > Trust is built on civility and respect for others' opinions. A mail system is built on absolute reliability. The first thing I noticed in the DRUMS spec was a disastrous proposal for a 5yz error code ``since nothing temporary is happening.'' THIS INCORRECTLY BOUNCES MAIL. The second thing I noticed was a disastrous proposal to do loop detection by checking for the domain name in Received fields. THIS INCORRECTLY BOUNCES MAIL. If you people want respect, you're going to have to display some technical competence. I am not going to sit by and watch you fuck up mail delivery for the entire Internet. ---Dan